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	<title>Comments on: Testing Commercial SL50 Oxy Hydrogen Generator on Dodge Sprinter</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SaveFuel</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, I am back and the fuel consumption from Edmonton to Calgary (no stop in Red Deer) was &lt;strong&gt;11.6L/100KM&lt;/strong&gt; - same as that of Sept 24 before changing to the new air induction hose.

The only difference was, the Shell station in Nisku that I always use, ran out of diesel! And several fuel stations around there had the same problem. Eventually I found the Canadian Tire fuel station had diesel! Canadian Tire has two kinds of diesel: regular and green (higher grade). I picked the regular. The shell station always has one kind of diesel.

I expected to see a lower fuel consumption result but in fact I got the same result as last time. Don't know if this made the difference.

Anyway, I feel I need to find a way to lean out the fuel injection - I have not received the HydroxyTech's kit which includes a VMU. &lt;a href="http://clicklinkto.com/at/55/EFIEcomment160/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;The EFIE sold here&lt;/a&gt; does not work well with the wideband O2 sensor on Sprinter. Hope the VMU would make it easier to lean out the fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I am back and the fuel consumption from Edmonton to Calgary (no stop in Red Deer) was <strong>11.6L/100KM</strong> - same as that of Sept 24 before changing to the new air induction hose.</p>
<p>The only difference was, the Shell station in Nisku that I always use, ran out of diesel! And several fuel stations around there had the same problem. Eventually I found the Canadian Tire fuel station had diesel! Canadian Tire has two kinds of diesel: regular and green (higher grade). I picked the regular. The shell station always has one kind of diesel.</p>
<p>I expected to see a lower fuel consumption result but in fact I got the same result as last time. Don&#8217;t know if this made the difference.</p>
<p>Anyway, I feel I need to find a way to lean out the fuel injection - I have not received the HydroxyTech&#8217;s kit which includes a VMU. <a href="http://clicklinkto.com/at/55/EFIEcomment160/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The EFIE sold here</a> does not work well with the wideband O2 sensor on Sprinter. Hope the VMU would make it easier to lean out the fuel.</p>
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		<title>By: FuelSaving</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>FuelSaving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quick report on result obtained after I received the air induction hose I purchased on eBay right after the Thanksgiving long weekend.

With the new air induction hose replacing the old one, driving from Calgary to Edmonton (Nisku to be more exact which has a Shell station just off the highway #2) for 290 KMs consumed 26.9 liters of diesel. This is &lt;strong&gt;9.3 L/100KM&lt;/strong&gt; which is the best fuel consumption ever recorded.

This proves that replacing the old air induction hose with a new one does help with the problem of air leaking that was detected on September 23 and 24.

Will report the return trip result when I get back to Calgary tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick report on result obtained after I received the air induction hose I purchased on eBay right after the Thanksgiving long weekend.</p>
<p>With the new air induction hose replacing the old one, driving from Calgary to Edmonton (Nisku to be more exact which has a Shell station just off the highway #2) for 290 KMs consumed 26.9 liters of diesel. This is <strong>9.3 L/100KM</strong> which is the best fuel consumption ever recorded.</p>
<p>This proves that replacing the old air induction hose with a new one does help with the problem of air leaking that was detected on September 23 and 24.</p>
<p>Will report the return trip result when I get back to Calgary tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: kikox1</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>kikox1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the VMU is better for gas than for diesel - maybe it is better to use the sensor of presion of the injection bomb like in the "Evry fuel mod" - it uses a potentiometer for injecting more diesel.

See links:
&lt;a href="http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=12165&#38;highlight=evry+mod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=12165&#38;highlight=evry+mod&lt;/a&gt;  
and
&lt;a href="http://www.clubclio.com/public/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7456&#38;postdays=0&#38;postorder=asc&#38;highlight=potenciar&#38;start=15" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.clubclio.com/public/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7456&#38;postdays=0&#38;postorder=asc&#38;highlight=potenciar&#38;start=15&lt;/a&gt; (in spanish for common rail)

My idea is, that may be used for reducing the diesel injected. (Is only theory, no probed).

I think about that additional ECU before changing this parameter.

Technical guide: &lt;a href="http://www.dieselpowertuning.co.uk/files/dpt_technical_guide.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.dieselpowertuning.co.uk/files/dpt_technical_guide.pdf&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the VMU is better for gas than for diesel - maybe it is better to use the sensor of presion of the injection bomb like in the &#8220;Evry fuel mod&#8221; - it uses a potentiometer for injecting more diesel.</p>
<p>See links:<br />
<a href="http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=12165&amp;highlight=evry+mod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=12165&amp;highlight=evry+mod</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://www.clubclio.com/public/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7456&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=potenciar&amp;start=15" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.clubclio.com/public/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7456&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=potenciar&amp;start=15</a> (in spanish for common rail)</p>
<p>My idea is, that may be used for reducing the diesel injected. (Is only theory, no probed).</p>
<p>I think about that additional ECU before changing this parameter.</p>
<p>Technical guide: <a href="http://www.dieselpowertuning.co.uk/files/dpt_technical_guide.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dieselpowertuning.co.uk/files/dpt_technical_guide.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fried fuel and like Minded</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Fried fuel and like Minded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you pay retail at a dealership. Please do check on eBay and other online places. I've seen the hoses there before and I know ScoobyTheCoreMan parts-out Sprinter engine cores.
B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you pay retail at a dealership. Please do check on eBay and other online places. I&#8217;ve seen the hoses there before and I know ScoobyTheCoreMan parts-out Sprinter engine cores.<br />
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		<title>By: SaveFuel</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-148</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... I suspect that the VMU (vehicle management unit) made by HydroxyTech is the additional ECU (electronic control unit) that you are talking about. I am looking forward to receiving the kit I ordered from HydroxyTech which includes the VMU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; I suspect that the VMU (vehicle management unit) made by HydroxyTech is the additional ECU (electronic control unit) that you are talking about. I am looking forward to receiving the kit I ordered from HydroxyTech which includes the VMU.</p>
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		<title>By: kikox1</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>kikox1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 11:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that an aditional ECU can control the diesel injected.

http://dieselboxtuning.com/index.php
http://www.fsp-racing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=779

This can adjust with potentiometer and cost over 150€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that an aditional ECU can control the diesel injected.</p>
<p><a href="http://dieselboxtuning.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">http://dieselboxtuning.com/index.php</a><br />
<a href="http://www.fsp-racing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=779" rel="nofollow">http://www.fsp-racing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=779</a></p>
<p>This can adjust with potentiometer and cost over 150€</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFuel</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did another test with HHO generator ON all the time for my recent trip to Edmonton on September 23 and 24. The worse thing occurred: the air induction hose, where I drilled two holes and then sealed up with rubber and clamps, leaked. It got worse on highway as the air pressure in the hose was higher than city driving. For that reason, the city driving fuel consumption within Edmonton (10.3 L/100KM) was significantly lower than the highway consumption (12.4 L/100KM) - usually it is the other around. No choice - I need to purchase a new air induction hose and do another test with SL50 before the HydroxyTech's kit arrives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did another test with HHO generator ON all the time for my recent trip to Edmonton on September 23 and 24. The worse thing occurred: the air induction hose, where I drilled two holes and then sealed up with rubber and clamps, leaked. It got worse on highway as the air pressure in the hose was higher than city driving. For that reason, the city driving fuel consumption within Edmonton (10.3 L/100KM) was significantly lower than the highway consumption (12.4 L/100KM) - usually it is the other around. No choice - I need to purchase a new air induction hose and do another test with SL50 before the HydroxyTech&#8217;s kit arrives.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vi asked:
&#62; Is it true that HHO is nor recommended for
&#62; vehicles with turbochargers, superchargers or
&#62; compression ratios greater than 9.5 to 1 it can
&#62; cause an engine knock

If you were injecting *lots* of hydroxy (or hydrogen), that would be true... since hydroxy ignites at about 580 C if pure.

However, it's diluted by the air to far -below- the self-sustaining burning level of hydrogen in air (which is 4% at atmospheric pressure).

If you assume 10 liters of hydrogen (which would be 15 liters of HHO) per minute, that's getting blended with (at least, the turbo dilutes it even further) 2700 liters of air for the Sprinter running at 2000 rpm... so that's a "fuel/air" ratio of 10/2700= 0.37 %  ... not three point seven, but *point* 37 percent. Far too little hydrogen to even -think- about igniting, even at the Sprinter's 18 to 1 (or higher, 35 max) compression ratio.

Empirically, if it's having an effect upon his mileage, then the hydrogen must still be in the cylinder when the fuel is injected near top-dead-center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vi asked:<br />
&gt; Is it true that HHO is nor recommended for<br />
&gt; vehicles with turbochargers, superchargers or<br />
&gt; compression ratios greater than 9.5 to 1 it can<br />
&gt; cause an engine knock</p>
<p>If you were injecting *lots* of hydroxy (or hydrogen), that would be true&#8230; since hydroxy ignites at about 580 C if pure.</p>
<p>However, it&#8217;s diluted by the air to far -below- the self-sustaining burning level of hydrogen in air (which is 4% at atmospheric pressure).</p>
<p>If you assume 10 liters of hydrogen (which would be 15 liters of HHO) per minute, that&#8217;s getting blended with (at least, the turbo dilutes it even further) 2700 liters of air for the Sprinter running at 2000 rpm&#8230; so that&#8217;s a &#8220;fuel/air&#8221; ratio of 10/2700= 0.37 %  &#8230; not three point seven, but *point* 37 percent. Far too little hydrogen to even -think- about igniting, even at the Sprinter&#8217;s 18 to 1 (or higher, 35 max) compression ratio.</p>
<p>Empirically, if it&#8217;s having an effect upon his mileage, then the hydrogen must still be in the cylinder when the fuel is injected near top-dead-center.</p>
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		<title>By: Testing HydroxyTech EFI1250 Kit on Dodge Sprinter Cargo Van &#124; AutoFuelSaving Test Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Testing HydroxyTech EFI1250 Kit on Dodge Sprinter Cargo Van &#124; AutoFuelSaving Test Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The tests on SL50 oxy hydrogen generator on our 2006 Dodge Sprinter cargo van (medium-long wheelbase with high roof) has almost come to an end - we just need to do one last test to confirm our recent result of 31% fuel saving. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The tests on SL50 oxy hydrogen generator on our 2006 Dodge Sprinter cargo van (medium-long wheelbase with high roof) has almost come to an end - we just need to do one last test to confirm our recent result of 31% fuel saving. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vi</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Vi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it true that HHO is nor recommended for vehicles with turbochargers, superchargers or compression ratios greater than 9.5 to 1 it can cause an engine knock
Thank you
Vi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it true that HHO is nor recommended for vehicles with turbochargers, superchargers or compression ratios greater than 9.5 to 1 it can cause an engine knock<br />
Thank you<br />
Vi</p>
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