<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Testing Commercial SL50 Oxy Hydrogen Generator on Dodge Sprinter</title>
	<atom:link href="http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/</link>
	<description>Posting installations and testing results of supplymental HHO or oxyhydrogen in saving fuel for diesel and gasoline engines</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 07:48:21 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: FuelSaving</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>FuelSaving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-287</guid>
		<description>Great to hear that, Ralph! Please remember to tell us your testing results. I am extremely interested in Stanley Myers cell and circuit. Which source did you purchase your unit from? Make sure to use something rigid like 3/8&quot; copper tubing to replace the plastic tubing at the place of HHO injection - that is what I am doing. Sorry I did not take a picture of that. The last picture above was an old one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to hear that, Ralph! Please remember to tell us your testing results. I am extremely interested in Stanley Myers cell and circuit. Which source did you purchase your unit from? Make sure to use something rigid like 3/8&#8243; copper tubing to replace the plastic tubing at the place of HHO injection &#8211; that is what I am doing. Sorry I did not take a picture of that. The last picture above was an old one.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: ralph</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-286</link>
		<dc:creator>ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-286</guid>
		<description>Nice to see others sorting out hho injection .Im currently trying cell with a Myers circuit for an 11 litre cummins semi tractor. Regards ralph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see others sorting out hho injection .Im currently trying cell with a Myers circuit for an 11 litre cummins semi tractor. Regards ralph</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: FuelSaving</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>FuelSaving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-277</guid>
		<description>Radu, sorry I have not checked this website for a while. As for your question, here is my response...

(1) You know what? I do not have a working curve for that. I do believe there is an optimum HHO injection as too little will not burn out all the unburned heavy fuel molecules and too much will cause engine work too hard to maintain the high current deeded by the electrolysis. I wish someone could establish a working curve for 3L, 5L, 10L, 15L engines.

(2) How many liters/minute of HHO is too much? I tend to measure that using the operating current in amps. For our Sprinter with a 2.7L engine, I run the HHO generator usually at 10A at cold when starting. When the solution is hot (e.g. 50 degrees Celsius), the current may be 15A. I would say 20A might be too much for a 2.7L engine. If the engine size is 15L, 40A might be too much.

(3) Fooling around with sensors? I have not done it on Sprinter as I could get good results without doing that. If you plan to do it, find one O2 sensor (yes, just one). Looking from below, there is a large heat shield on the passenger’s side. The wire harness clipped to that goes to the O2 sensor. You can see it from the top if you remove the heat shield - here is a picture of O2 sensor wrapped with Al foil:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://autofuelsaving.com/images/wrapup_o2_sensor_sprinter.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;O2 sensor wrapped with Al foil - seen from the top&quot; /&gt;

Another sensor is the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor - I am sure you can find that. Here is a picture showing how I injected HHO right after the MAF:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://autofuelsaving.com/images/before_turbo.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;MAF sensor - HHO injection after MAF&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radu, sorry I have not checked this website for a while. As for your question, here is my response&#8230;</p>
<p>(1) You know what? I do not have a working curve for that. I do believe there is an optimum HHO injection as too little will not burn out all the unburned heavy fuel molecules and too much will cause engine work too hard to maintain the high current deeded by the electrolysis. I wish someone could establish a working curve for 3L, 5L, 10L, 15L engines.</p>
<p>(2) How many liters/minute of HHO is too much? I tend to measure that using the operating current in amps. For our Sprinter with a 2.7L engine, I run the HHO generator usually at 10A at cold when starting. When the solution is hot (e.g. 50 degrees Celsius), the current may be 15A. I would say 20A might be too much for a 2.7L engine. If the engine size is 15L, 40A might be too much.</p>
<p>(3) Fooling around with sensors? I have not done it on Sprinter as I could get good results without doing that. If you plan to do it, find one O2 sensor (yes, just one). Looking from below, there is a large heat shield on the passenger’s side. The wire harness clipped to that goes to the O2 sensor. You can see it from the top if you remove the heat shield &#8211; here is a picture of O2 sensor wrapped with Al foil:</p>
<p><img src="http://autofuelsaving.com/images/wrapup_o2_sensor_sprinter.jpg" alt="O2 sensor wrapped with Al foil - seen from the top" /></p>
<p>Another sensor is the Mass Air Flow (MAF) sensor &#8211; I am sure you can find that. Here is a picture showing how I injected HHO right after the MAF:</p>
<p><img src="http://autofuelsaving.com/images/before_turbo.jpg" alt="MAF sensor - HHO injection after MAF" /></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Radu</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>Radu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 22:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-276</guid>
		<description>Hy! I have a 313 CDI 95Kw 130 HP 2200cm3 2005 sprinter from Germany.I have a few questions about HHO.
1. How many litter/minut of HHO I need for a good result?
2. How many litter/minut of HHO is &quot;too much&quot; for engine?
3. Witch sensors shoud I &quot;full&quot;? You have some pictures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hy! I have a 313 CDI 95Kw 130 HP 2200cm3 2005 sprinter from Germany.I have a few questions about HHO.<br />
1. How many litter/minut of HHO I need for a good result?<br />
2. How many litter/minut of HHO is &#8220;too much&#8221; for engine?<br />
3. Witch sensors shoud I &#8220;full&#8221;? You have some pictures?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: FuelSaving</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-260</link>
		<dc:creator>FuelSaving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 07:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-260</guid>
		<description>Mike, you should inject HHO before the turbo. There is a concern... that is, the compression of the mixture gas will make it susceptible to explosion. As Dick estimated above, this will not happen even when your HHO production rate is 10L/min. At this production rate, the percentage of hydrogen is only 0.37%, far less than the self-sustaining burning level of hydrogen in air (which is 4% at atmospheric pressure).

You will definitely save fuel if (1) no additional fuel being consumed as a result of HHO injection due to wrong ECU response and (2) the percentage of unburned in the exhaust is significantly reduced as supported by air emission testing result. Read my recent post on this:

http://autofuelsaving.com/info/crucial-test-if-hho-generators-indeed-save-fuel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you should inject HHO before the turbo. There is a concern&#8230; that is, the compression of the mixture gas will make it susceptible to explosion. As Dick estimated above, this will not happen even when your HHO production rate is 10L/min. At this production rate, the percentage of hydrogen is only 0.37%, far less than the self-sustaining burning level of hydrogen in air (which is 4% at atmospheric pressure).</p>
<p>You will definitely save fuel if (1) no additional fuel being consumed as a result of HHO injection due to wrong ECU response and (2) the percentage of unburned in the exhaust is significantly reduced as supported by air emission testing result. Read my recent post on this:</p>
<p><a href="http://autofuelsaving.com/info/crucial-test-if-hho-generators-indeed-save-fuel" rel="nofollow">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/crucial-test-if-hho-generators-indeed-save-fuel</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-259</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 20:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-259</guid>
		<description>hi this is mike from england hope u can help me i have strugling with my peugeot 806 hdi diesel turbo intercooler for about about 6 months now with hho no results at all apart from clean hot air comming from the exhaust pipe i have plumbed my HHO pipe before the turbo but some say after the turbo which is the correct way thanks hope u can help me  MIKE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi this is mike from england hope u can help me i have strugling with my peugeot 806 hdi diesel turbo intercooler for about about 6 months now with hho no results at all apart from clean hot air comming from the exhaust pipe i have plumbed my HHO pipe before the turbo but some say after the turbo which is the correct way thanks hope u can help me  MIKE</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: SaveFuel</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-160</guid>
		<description>OK, I am back and the fuel consumption from Edmonton to Calgary (no stop in Red Deer) was &lt;strong&gt;11.6L/100KM&lt;/strong&gt; - same as that of Sept 24 before changing to the new air induction hose.

The only difference was, the Shell station in Nisku that I always use, ran out of diesel! And several fuel stations around there had the same problem. Eventually I found the Canadian Tire fuel station had diesel! Canadian Tire has two kinds of diesel: regular and green (higher grade). I picked the regular. The shell station always has one kind of diesel.

I expected to see a lower fuel consumption result but in fact I got the same result as last time. Don&#039;t know if this made the difference.

Anyway, I feel I need to find a way to lean out the fuel injection - I have not received the HydroxyTech&#039;s kit which includes a VMU. &lt;a href=&quot;http://clicklinkto.com/at/55/EFIEcomment160/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The EFIE sold here&lt;/a&gt; does not work well with the wideband O2 sensor on Sprinter. Hope the VMU would make it easier to lean out the fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I am back and the fuel consumption from Edmonton to Calgary (no stop in Red Deer) was <strong>11.6L/100KM</strong> &#8211; same as that of Sept 24 before changing to the new air induction hose.</p>
<p>The only difference was, the Shell station in Nisku that I always use, ran out of diesel! And several fuel stations around there had the same problem. Eventually I found the Canadian Tire fuel station had diesel! Canadian Tire has two kinds of diesel: regular and green (higher grade). I picked the regular. The shell station always has one kind of diesel.</p>
<p>I expected to see a lower fuel consumption result but in fact I got the same result as last time. Don&#8217;t know if this made the difference.</p>
<p>Anyway, I feel I need to find a way to lean out the fuel injection &#8211; I have not received the HydroxyTech&#8217;s kit which includes a VMU. <a href="http://clicklinkto.com/at/55/EFIEcomment160/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">The EFIE sold here</a> does not work well with the wideband O2 sensor on Sprinter. Hope the VMU would make it easier to lean out the fuel.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: FuelSaving</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>FuelSaving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-158</guid>
		<description>Just a quick report on result obtained after I received the air induction hose I purchased on eBay right after the Thanksgiving long weekend.

With the new air induction hose replacing the old one, driving from Calgary to Edmonton (Nisku to be more exact which has a Shell station just off the highway #2) for 290 KMs consumed 26.9 liters of diesel. This is &lt;strong&gt;9.3 L/100KM&lt;/strong&gt; which is the best fuel consumption ever recorded.

This proves that replacing the old air induction hose with a new one does help with the problem of air leaking that was detected on September 23 and 24.

Will report the return trip result when I get back to Calgary tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick report on result obtained after I received the air induction hose I purchased on eBay right after the Thanksgiving long weekend.</p>
<p>With the new air induction hose replacing the old one, driving from Calgary to Edmonton (Nisku to be more exact which has a Shell station just off the highway #2) for 290 KMs consumed 26.9 liters of diesel. This is <strong>9.3 L/100KM</strong> which is the best fuel consumption ever recorded.</p>
<p>This proves that replacing the old air induction hose with a new one does help with the problem of air leaking that was detected on September 23 and 24.</p>
<p>Will report the return trip result when I get back to Calgary tomorrow.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: kikox1</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>kikox1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 09:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-153</guid>
		<description>I think that the VMU is better for gas than for diesel - maybe it is better to use the sensor of presion of the injection bomb like in the &quot;Evry fuel mod&quot; - it uses a potentiometer for injecting more diesel.

See links:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=12165&amp;highlight=evry+mod&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=12165&amp;highlight=evry+mod&lt;/a&gt;  
and
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clubclio.com/public/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7456&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=potenciar&amp;start=15&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.clubclio.com/public/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7456&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=potenciar&amp;start=15&lt;/a&gt; (in spanish for common rail)

My idea is, that may be used for reducing the diesel injected. (Is only theory, no probed).

I think about that additional ECU before changing this parameter.

Technical guide: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dieselpowertuning.co.uk/files/dpt_technical_guide.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dieselpowertuning.co.uk/files/dpt_technical_guide.pdf&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the VMU is better for gas than for diesel &#8211; maybe it is better to use the sensor of presion of the injection bomb like in the &#8220;Evry fuel mod&#8221; &#8211; it uses a potentiometer for injecting more diesel.</p>
<p>See links:<br />
<a href="http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=12165&amp;highlight=evry+mod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=12165&amp;highlight=evry+mod</a><br />
and<br />
<a href="http://www.clubclio.com/public/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7456&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=potenciar&amp;start=15" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.clubclio.com/public/foro/viewtopic.php?t=7456&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;highlight=potenciar&amp;start=15</a> (in spanish for common rail)</p>
<p>My idea is, that may be used for reducing the diesel injected. (Is only theory, no probed).</p>
<p>I think about that additional ECU before changing this parameter.</p>
<p>Technical guide: <a href="http://www.dieselpowertuning.co.uk/files/dpt_technical_guide.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.dieselpowertuning.co.uk/files/dpt_technical_guide.pdf</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Fried fuel and like Minded</title>
		<link>http://autofuelsaving.com/info/3/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/comment-page-2/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Fried fuel and like Minded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://autofuelsaving.com/info/2008/03/24/testing-commercial-sl50-oxy-hydrogen-generator-on-dodge-sprinter/#comment-149</guid>
		<description>Before you pay retail at a dealership. Please do check on eBay and other online places. I&#039;ve seen the hoses there before and I know ScoobyTheCoreMan parts-out Sprinter engine cores.
B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you pay retail at a dealership. Please do check on eBay and other online places. I&#8217;ve seen the hoses there before and I know ScoobyTheCoreMan parts-out Sprinter engine cores.<br />
B</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
